tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7999633524276247455.post707520500143452737..comments2023-07-04T16:57:28.929+01:00Comments on Where's the Benefit?: Whose care is it anyway?Lisahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16714918894319998184noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7999633524276247455.post-14204270876480331202011-01-24T14:33:35.975+00:002011-01-24T14:33:35.975+00:00We are normal, if you define 'normal' as &...We are normal, if you define 'normal' as 'the set of all humans', disability is just a sub-set within that, but a lot of people instead seem to treat it as a completely separate set outside of the set of all humans -- which to a degree is what your friends were doing. It's that disconnect in perceiving disabled people as 'normal' or 'human' that I'm talking about fixing. We need people to see disability as just a different kind of normal, which is essentially what has been achieved for being non-white or gay over the past half a century.DavidGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11734028655032503805noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7999633524276247455.post-67183021540207079032011-01-24T01:31:28.503+00:002011-01-24T01:31:28.503+00:00We're not normal though. But that is ok. Diffe...We're not normal though. But that is ok. Difference is ok. It is when people are afraid of it and want to ignore it that it isn't. And that is when they will stop empathising with disabled people and refuse any sort of equality or rights. But it isn't even always to do with fear or nastiness though. We are put in a category apart and I think people are conditioned to think that way very early on.<br /><br />I'm quite visibly disabled and yet some of my friends have said to me recently that they forget that I am. They didn't mean it as a so called compliment as in "I don't consider you disabled". They meant in the context of the news talking about "the disabled". When described like that they said they didn't really connect to the story much and had trouble even remembering that I was part of that group of people.<br /><br />So there is "them" and there is "the disabled". And then there is me, which is shocking because I'm in both groups.LoopySnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7999633524276247455.post-53608285574380990342011-01-23T19:57:45.769+00:002011-01-23T19:57:45.769+00:00>>It is probably a lot easier for currently ...>>It is probably a lot easier for currently able people [] to empathise with the person doing the caring rather than the person with the disability. <<<br /><br />But if the news media truly care about the case as something important to society, then shouldn't that very fact be one they are emphasising and asking "how do we fix a society that doesn't consider 20+% of its members to be 'normal' or equal?"DavidGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11734028655032503805noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7999633524276247455.post-24368964629001331372011-01-23T17:48:04.171+00:002011-01-23T17:48:04.171+00:00But aren't you concerned that the press bias w...<i>But aren't you concerned that the press bias will affect the outcome of the "zero-sum game"? That's the point I was trying to make.</i><br /><br />Not really. We're s<rewed six ways from Sunday anyhow...DeusExMacintoshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02728119585120029111noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7999633524276247455.post-25781710887064867562011-01-23T17:29:34.871+00:002011-01-23T17:29:34.871+00:00Just read that Mirror article. Is that the only so...Just read that Mirror article. Is that the only source that says Riven has MS? Hesitant to cite that source as fact seeing as they didn't even get Celyn's name right. And it's not even a little typo like "Celin" or something, they call her Holly!Lisahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16714918894319998184noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7999633524276247455.post-7051656161046740732011-01-23T12:02:10.409+00:002011-01-23T12:02:10.409+00:00@DeusExMacintosh:
But aren't you concerned th...@DeusExMacintosh:<br /><br />But aren't you concerned that the press bias will affect the outcome of the "zero-sum game"? That's the point I was trying to make.Lisahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16714918894319998184noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7999633524276247455.post-20090543126309392142011-01-23T11:04:44.885+00:002011-01-23T11:04:44.885+00:00I'm similarly worried about the approach to So...I'm similarly worried about the approach to Social Care that treats it as some kind of zero-sum game (for someone to win, another person has to lose), but less so the concentration of the media on the carer rather than disabled person. It is probably a lot easier for currently able people [sorry I don't like using TABs it just seems rude and ill wishing] to empathise with the person doing the caring rather than the person with the disability.DeusExMacintoshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02728119585120029111noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7999633524276247455.post-23927689763463330232011-01-23T00:09:25.346+00:002011-01-23T00:09:25.346+00:00"Riven, 41, who has MS, and Holly’s dad Mark,..."Riven, 41, who has MS, and Holly’s dad Mark, 44, say he [David Cameron] solemnly told them: “I would never do anything that would hurt disabled children.”<br /><br />Stephen Rawlins, Daily Mirror 20/01/2011<br /><br />http://preview.tinyurl.com/6cekjpwChrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13970537021704454313noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7999633524276247455.post-53276511616278794072011-01-22T22:03:55.850+00:002011-01-22T22:03:55.850+00:00Really? If you have a source I'll edit the pos...Really? If you have a source I'll edit the post and put in the link.Lisahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16714918894319998184noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7999633524276247455.post-28908000723649729112011-01-22T20:50:21.288+00:002011-01-22T20:50:21.288+00:00Riven is also disabled, she has MS.Riven is also disabled, she has MS.BenefitScroungingScumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08939136229593231935noreply@blogger.com