tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7999633524276247455.post7727529370027485313..comments2023-07-04T16:57:28.929+01:00Comments on Where's the Benefit?: Labour: Still in DenialLisahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16714918894319998184noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7999633524276247455.post-23881465290955125732011-04-29T11:50:06.437+01:002011-04-29T11:50:06.437+01:00This comment has been removed by the author.DavidGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11734028655032503805noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7999633524276247455.post-24296184834251024932011-04-29T11:36:18.732+01:002011-04-29T11:36:18.732+01:00@nanobot: All that is necessary for evil to triump...@nanobot: All that is necessary for evil to triumph is that good men do nothing.<br /><br />Milliband is doing worse than nothing, if pushed to an opinion, he chooses to support the attacks on us. Timms demonstrated that is a consistent view within the Shadow Cabinet last week.<br /><br />And remember, it was the DWP under Labour which started the attacks on us as scroungers.DavidGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11734028655032503805noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7999633524276247455.post-76076530933831340392011-04-29T03:51:41.707+01:002011-04-29T03:51:41.707+01:00But David, it's the right-wing hate papers tha...But David, it's the right-wing hate papers that keep pushing the benefit scrounger stories against the sick and disabled. <br /><br />It is predominantly right-wingers who support laissez faire and are hostile to the welfare state. On every political website I visit it is right-wingers viciously attacking and lying about the sick and disabled. <br /><br />If Ed is going to pander to the right-wing tabloids, that means pandering to anti sick and disabled sentiment and supporting polcies that hurt the sick and disabled, because the right-wingers who own most of the media are not going to stop until they have succeeded in their mission of completely destroying the welfare state.nanobotnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7999633524276247455.post-62216272849438202182011-04-29T02:30:19.804+01:002011-04-29T02:30:19.804+01:00@Lucy: really agree with the sentiments in that la...@Lucy: really agree with the sentiments in that last paragraph of yours.<br /><br />@nanobot: I'm actually a centrist, New Labour came closer to representing my views on most things than the traditional party. But disability policy is somewhere where it doesn't matter the shade of political opinion, no one is standing against the tide to say this is wrong, this is not what my party should stand for, whether that party be New Labour, Old Labour, Liberal-Democrat or Conservative, to say out loud that ESA is a deliberately disablist policy that must be abandoned as the failure it is.DavidGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11734028655032503805noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7999633524276247455.post-55400495693665944842011-04-28T23:05:17.719+01:002011-04-28T23:05:17.719+01:00"Red Ed is dead but I will stand and my party..."Red Ed is dead but I will stand and my party will stand for the mainstream of Britain - for Sun readers and for their concerns. <br /><br />"I want to show to Sun readers that I get it about the concerns that they have." <br /><br />Showing a new public humility, Ed made a series of concessions about Labour's record in government, including: <br /><br />Bungling the key issues of the impact of immigration and welfare: "where frankly we lost touch". <br /><br />http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/features/3541842/Red-Ed-is-dead-says-Miliband.html<br /><br /><br />"Red Ed" ran to the left of his brother in the leadership contest as a tactic because he saw there was a niche there for him, to differentiate himself from his brother and gain union support which he needed. But he is no leftist, he's just another New Labour opportunist who would rule by the diktats of the right-wing tabloids given the chance.<br /><br />All Ed wants is power, the sick and disabled are just abstract to him and expendable.<br /><br />They're still New Labour.nanobotnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7999633524276247455.post-18251435188898985712011-04-28T22:53:01.859+01:002011-04-28T22:53:01.859+01:00I'd like to say I'm shocked at a Labour po...I'd like to say I'm shocked at a Labour politician saying this - I am shocked it came from one who works for the Disability Alliance though.<br /><br />I found it incredible to discover that 25% fewer households received assistance from local authorities in 2007 than in 1997. That means less people ended up receiving community care support under Blair and Brown than Thatcher!<br /><br />Recently I saw Johann Hari (whose work generally I really admire) blaming the Tories for massively reduced inspection frequencies of care services - but the reality is this began under Labour, and was dramatically accelerated by the formation of CQC.<br /><br />The outsourcing and marketisation of community care was begun under Thatcher, but increased under Labour - only a few weeks ago the CQC published a report which found that care outsourced to the private sector was poorer quality than dwindling in-house services.<br /><br />I could go on... There are some Labour politicians out there who I really rate, and who I think really understand and care about disability rights and care issues. But sadly the party as a whole is unwilling to confront the population with the unpleasant reality that systems of mutual support for times of need cost money. And the vast majority of the population prefer not to acknowledge that one day, they too might be in need.Lucyhttp://thesmallplaces.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7999633524276247455.post-68690013570292332732011-04-28T20:46:16.830+01:002011-04-28T20:46:16.830+01:00Ive recently rejoined the Labour Party in the hope...Ive recently rejoined the Labour Party in the hope we can get the Party back to left wing policies and values. If enough of us follow suit we could change it from within. Its happened before, I particularily agree with your last paragraph btw. We should re-instate clause 4 and act on it.triffikshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05722834652283250946noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7999633524276247455.post-80930267268884935492011-04-28T18:50:18.316+01:002011-04-28T18:50:18.316+01:00Labour has sold out to big business just as much (...Labour has sold out to big business just as much (but probably for less) as the Tories ever did. There's too much money to be made by plundering the public purse pulling scams like this, politicians from all parties want a share.<br /><br />BBBill Krusehttp://www.economania.co.uknoreply@blogger.com